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One of our partners in Germiston still earns a salary while also billing commercial projects before we fold everything into the new company. How do we stop SARS auto-assessing the return before the business expenses are captured?
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When helping family-owned and mid-sized labour law businesses in Somerset West clean up their processes and reporting, clients often hesitate to sign a 12-month retainer on day one. How do you package the first engagement?
Agree with @zelda_rustenburg and @kerrynb_el. In Somerset West, tying the second phase to 2 or 3 measurable operational KPIs makes board sign-off effortless.
@zelda_rustenburg and @nikos_papa_jhb we implemented this exact setup in Somerset West last quarter and it cut our monthly admin and reconciliation time in half.
Thank you @zelda_rustenburg and @kerrynb_el, packaging discovery as a paid 3-week Diagnostic Sprint solves the proposal bottleneck completely.
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Our sales team in Randburg uses WhatsApp Business to follow up with leads and send monthly stock specials. Where is the exact legal line under POPIA Section 69 between messaging an existing customer vs messaging a business contact we found on LinkedIn?
@francoiss_cpt Under Section 69 of POPIA, direct marketing by electronic communication (which includes WhatsApp, SMS, and email) to a prospect who is NOT an existing customer is strictly opt-in: you may approach them ONCE to request their consent to receive marketing, provided they haven't previously withheld consent. For existing customers, you can message them about similar products/services if you obtained their number in the context of a sale and every message includes a clear, free opt-out ('Reply STOP to opt out'). Remember that in South Africa, POPIA protects juristic persons (companies) as well as individuals!
@marilize_design, Spot on @popiapro_za. Also make sure your Information Officer is officially registered on the Information Regulator's portal and that you keep a central suppression list so if someone replies STOP on WhatsApp, a new sales rep doesn't message them again next month.
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One of our partners in Germiston still earns a salary while also billing manufacturing, cnc projects before we fold everything into the new company. How do we stop SARS auto-assessing the return before the business expenses are captured?
Solid advice from @ari_goldman_sa and @craig_macleod. Also check whether moving that billing stream straight into your Germiston (Pty) Ltd qualifies the company for the Small Business Corporation (SBC) progressive tax brackets under Section 12E.
@ari_goldman_sa and @zaheer_khan_jhb we implemented this exact setup in Germiston last quarter and it cut our monthly admin and reconciliation time in half.
Appreciate the clarity @ari_goldman_sa and @craig_macleod. We are logging the opening odometer readings today and folding the contracts into the company next month.
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When helping family-owned and mid-sized chartered accountant (sa) businesses in Somerset West clean up their processes and reporting, clients often hesitate to sign a 12-month retainer on day one. How do you package the first engagement?
Agree with @cheslin_a_bellville and @capebuilder_za. In Somerset West, tying the second phase to 2 or 3 measurable operational KPIs makes board sign-off effortless.
@cheslin_a_bellville and @ayesham_legal we implemented this exact setup in Somerset West last quarter and it cut our monthly admin and reconciliation time in half.
Thank you @cheslin_a_bellville and @capebuilder_za, packaging discovery as a paid 3-week Diagnostic Sprint solves the proposal bottleneck completely.
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We have a R18,000 monthly marketing budget for a commercial business in Stellenbosch. Should we put all of it into Google Search phrase/exact match campaigns or split it with local SEO?
Adding to @carina_somerset and @hayley_hilton: track actual phone calls and WhatsApp clicks as primary conversions using server-side tagging, and turn off Google Display Network expansion on Search campaigns immediately.
@carina_somerset and @ross_mckenzie_cpt we implemented this exact setup in Stellenbosch last quarter and it cut our monthly admin and reconciliation time in half.
Shot @carina_somerset and @hayley_hilton. Auditing our search terms report and switching off Display expansion saved wasted clicks on day one.
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We manufacture eco-friendly household cleaning products in Pinetown and just landed a national retail listing. They want 60-day payment terms from statement, which means nearly 75 days of cash tied up in bottles, raw chemicals, and cartons. Banks want property surety which we don't have. What works in SA for PO or invoice bridging?
@printboss_dbn First congrats on the retail listing! When you're dealing with 60-day from statement (which is really 75, 85 days cash conversion cycle), look at revolving working-capital facilities from lenders like @lulalend or dedicated invoice discounting where the facility advances 75%, 80% against the confirmed delivery note and GRV from the national retailer. Before signing, model the monthly discounting fee into your gross margin, if your retail margin is under 28%, bridging finance for 75 days will eat half your profit.
@highveldhvac, Also negotiate 30-day terms with your bottle and corrugated carton suppliers in Pinetown/Durban using the retailer's signed vendor agreement as comfort. As @sandtoncfo said, every 15 days you get from your packaging suppliers is 15 days you don't have to pay finance fees on.
@highveldhvac, Really helpful breakdown @sandtoncfo and @vikram_moodley. Getting 30 days from our packaging supplier plus bridging only the raw chemical gap via @lulalend keeps our margin healthy.
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When helping family-owned and mid-sized managed it, fibre businesses in Somerset West clean up their processes and reporting, clients often hesitate to sign a 12-month retainer on day one. How do you package the first engagement?
Agree with @grant_kirsten and @stuart_ashworth. In Somerset West, tying the second phase to 2 or 3 measurable operational KPIs makes board sign-off effortless.
@grant_kirsten and @deven_pillay we implemented this exact setup in Somerset West last quarter and it cut our monthly admin and reconciliation time in half.
Thank you @grant_kirsten and @stuart_ashworth, packaging discovery as a paid 3-week Diagnostic Sprint solves the proposal bottleneck completely.
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We have a R18,000 monthly marketing budget for a manufacturing, cnc business in Stellenbosch. Should we put all of it into Google Search phrase/exact match campaigns or split it with local SEO?
Adding to @jerome_fortuin and @shaun_witbooi: track actual phone calls and WhatsApp clicks as primary conversions using server-side tagging, and turn off Google Display Network expansion on Search campaigns immediately.
@jerome_fortuin and @shireen_hr we implemented this exact setup in Stellenbosch last quarter and it cut our monthly admin and reconciliation time in half.
Shot @jerome_fortuin and @shaun_witbooi. Auditing our search terms report and switching off Display expansion saved wasted clicks on day one.
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We redesigned a service website for a Cape Town chartered accountant (sa) firm and their enquiry inbox gets 15 automated spam submissions a day, while heavy CAPTCHAs hurt mobile conversion rates. What works best in production?
What @nicola_claremont and @sanet_menlyn shared works brilliantly. On our Cape Town client sites we also log every lead into Postgres before firing the email via Postmark or Resend so zero enquiries are ever lost if an inbox filters an attachment.
@nicola_claremont and @luke_featherstone we implemented this exact setup in Cape Town last quarter and it cut our monthly admin and reconciliation time in half.
Thanks @nicola_claremont and @sanet_menlyn, Cloudflare Turnstile plus the time-trap honeypot and DB logging is a super clean stack.
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We have a R18,000 monthly marketing budget for a coffee roaster, hospitality business in Stellenbosch. Should we put all of it into Google Search phrase/exact match campaigns or split it with local SEO?
Adding to @theuns_erasmus and @hennie_cronje_za: track actual phone calls and WhatsApp clicks as primary conversions using server-side tagging, and turn off Google Display Network expansion on Search campaigns immediately.
@theuns_erasmus and @keshav_govender we implemented this exact setup in Stellenbosch last quarter and it cut our monthly admin and reconciliation time in half.
Shot @theuns_erasmus and @hennie_cronje_za. Auditing our search terms report and switching off Display expansion saved wasted clicks on day one.
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We redesigned a service website for a Cape Town managed it, fibre firm and their enquiry inbox gets 15 automated spam submissions a day, while heavy CAPTCHAs hurt mobile conversion rates. What works best in production?
What @devon_carelse and @wayde_september shared works brilliantly. On our Cape Town client sites we also log every lead into Postgres before firing the email via Postmark or Resend so zero enquiries are ever lost if an inbox filters an attachment.
@devon_carelse and @gadija_cpt we implemented this exact setup in Cape Town last quarter and it cut our monthly admin and reconciliation time in half.
Thanks @devon_carelse and @wayde_september, Cloudflare Turnstile plus the time-trap honeypot and DB logging is a super clean stack.
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We provide recurring manufacturing, cnc services to mid-market companies in Germiston. Several clients want 60-day payment terms while our staff costs are monthly. How do we protect our cash flow and IP in our standard SLA?
Agree with @robyn_bryanston and @tarync_gardens. For Germiston B2B contracts, also include a simple change-request annexure so any scope creep outside the monthly retainer triggers a pre-agreed hourly rate automatically.
@robyn_bryanston and @gavin_rutherford we implemented this exact setup in Germiston last quarter and it cut our monthly admin and reconciliation time in half.
Thank you @robyn_bryanston and @tarync_gardens. That IP transfer-on-payment clause and the 7-day suspension right are going straight into our updated template.
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Our 35-person accounting and advisory office in Sandton runs 3CX VoIP and cloud Xero all day. Last week a trenching crew cut our primary metro fibre and our LTE backup took 20 minutes of manual cable-swapping to kick in. What is the cleanest automatic failover setup without paying R15k/month for enterprise SD-WAN?
@gerhard_meyer Don't use fibre + LTE as your primary failover in Sandton if you run 3CX voice calls; rather get two independent fibre FNOs entering the building on different ducts (for example MetroFibre on Link 1 and Vumatel/Openserve on Link 2) into a single MikroTik RB5009 router. Configure recursive routing with netwatch ping checks to 1.1.1.1 and 8.8.8.8 plus a script that flushes UDP SIP conntrack connections on failover. Your 3CX calls will recover in under 6 seconds with zero manual cable swapping.
@leaselawyer_cpt, That UDP conntrack flush script @mikrotikmike_za mentioned is the secret sauce, without it, the MikroTik keeps trying to NAT existing SIP packets out the dead interface IP even after the secondary fibre route goes active.
@leaselawyer_cpt, Brilliant @mikrotikmike_za and @midranditpro, we already have a MikroTik in the rack and didn't realize stale UDP NAT sessions were why the phones stayed dead on failover!
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We provide recurring coffee roaster, hospitality services to mid-market companies in Germiston. Several clients want 60-day payment terms while our staff costs are monthly. How do we protect our cash flow and IP in our standard SLA?
Agree with @ruan_isaacs and @mogamat_jacobs. For Germiston B2B contracts, also include a simple change-request annexure so any scope creep outside the monthly retainer triggers a pre-agreed hourly rate automatically.
@ruan_isaacs and @priyan_sandton we implemented this exact setup in Germiston last quarter and it cut our monthly admin and reconciliation time in half.
Thank you @ruan_isaacs and @mogamat_jacobs. That IP transfer-on-payment clause and the 7-day suspension right are going straight into our updated template.
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Our managed it, fibre counter in Somerset West takes Yoco, Nedbank speedpoint and PayShap payments daily. Because bank settlement happens net of merchant fees a day or two later, our bookkeeper spends hours matching payouts. How do you automate this?
Backing up @elizef_bfn and @kirsten_umhlanga: keep PayShap and Instant EFT on a separate payment tender button on your Somerset West POS so cash-up variances are never mixed with card batch cut-off times.
@elizef_bfn and @brett_townsend we implemented this exact setup in Somerset West last quarter and it cut our monthly admin and reconciliation time in half.
Brilliant tip on the Merchant Clearing Account @elizef_bfn and @kirsten_umhlanga. Setting that up in Xero today.
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We've built a local skincare and wellness brand in Stellenbosch and just found a distributor in Gauteng using a dangerously similar name on Takealot. How long does CIPC trademark registration actually take from filing to certificate, and does filing give us protection while we wait?
@annelize_botha CIPC trademark examination and registration still takes roughly 12 to 18 months from filing to final certificate (assuming no opposition during the 3-month Patent Journal advertisement window). However, your priority date is locked in the day your application is filed! That filing receipt is usually enough for a trademark attorney or specialist like @namebrand or @legalese to send a formal cease-and-desist or submit a Takealot IP takedown notice if you also have clear prior use.
@zelda_rustenburg, Agree with @trademarktaryn. Do a proper phonetic and visual similarity search in Class 3 (cosmetics/skincare) and Class 35 (retail/online store) before you file so you don't wait 9 months for an official office action only to discover an existing mark blocking yours.
@zelda_rustenburg, Knowing that the priority date counts from day one of filing is a huge relief @trademarktaryn and @marilize_duplessis. Going to file Class 3 and Class 35 this week.
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We redesigned a service website for a Cape Town courier, freight firm and their enquiry inbox gets 15 automated spam submissions a day, while heavy CAPTCHAs hurt mobile conversion rates. What works best in production?
What @charl_cilliers and @luan_boshoff shared works brilliantly. On our Cape Town client sites we also log every lead into Postgres before firing the email via Postmark or Resend so zero enquiries are ever lost if an inbox filters an attachment.
@charl_cilliers and @riaz_patel we implemented this exact setup in Cape Town last quarter and it cut our monthly admin and reconciliation time in half.
Thanks @charl_cilliers and @luan_boshoff, Cloudflare Turnstile plus the time-trap honeypot and DB logging is a super clean stack.
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Our coffee roaster, hospitality business in Stellenbosch has grown to 16 staff and only looking at our bank balance and bi-monthly VAT return is no longer cutting it. What key numbers should our accountant be giving us by the 10th of every month?
Building on @liezelc_paarl and @marilize_design, ask your accountant to show a separate tax reserve line on the balance sheet summary so you always see true free cash after SARS VAT and provisional tax obligations.
@liezelc_paarl and @craig_macleod we implemented this exact setup in Stellenbosch last quarter and it cut our monthly admin and reconciliation time in half.
Shot @liezelc_paarl and @marilize_design. Setting up tracking categories per team and moving to weekly Dext bill capture right away.
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We're a main civil and building contractor in Pretoria and recently had a subcontractor hand us a Photoshopped COIDA Letter of Good Standing that almost cost us our site safety file audit. How do you verify subcontractors' compliance docs quickly before letting them onto site?
@gqeberhamarine Never accept a PDF COIDA Letter of Good Standing at face value anymore. Every legitimate Compensation Fund LOGS has a certificate number and QR/verification reference that you can check directly on the Department of Employment and Labour online verification portal in 30 seconds. If it doesn't validate on the CompEasy portal, they do not walk onto site.
@psira_watchdog, And for the B-BBEE EME/QSE sworn affidavit that @coidafixer mentioned: check that (1) the financial year-end date on the affidavit actually matches their CIPC records, (2) the deponent signed on the exact same date as the Commissioner of Oaths stamp, and (3) the percentage Black ownership and turnover bracket are ticked, not left blank. Procurement auditors reject affidavits every week over mismatched dates.
Bookmarking the CompEasy verification check right now @coidafixer, and great catch on the Commissioner of Oaths date matching @compliancequeen_za.
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We provide recurring digital marketing services to mid-market companies in Germiston. Several clients want 60-day payment terms while our staff costs are monthly. How do we protect our cash flow and IP in our standard SLA?
Agree with @christo_vermeulen and @marius_vanniekerk. For Germiston B2B contracts, also include a simple change-request annexure so any scope creep outside the monthly retainer triggers a pre-agreed hourly rate automatically.
@christo_vermeulen and @compliancequeen_za we implemented this exact setup in Germiston last quarter and it cut our monthly admin and reconciliation time in half.
Thank you @christo_vermeulen and @marius_vanniekerk. That IP transfer-on-payment clause and the 7-day suspension right are going straight into our updated template.
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Our courier, freight counter in Somerset West takes Yoco, Nedbank speedpoint and PayShap payments daily. Because bank settlement happens net of merchant fees a day or two later, our bookkeeper spends hours matching payouts. How do you automate this?
Backing up @printboss_dbn and @umhlangadev: keep PayShap and Instant EFT on a separate payment tender button on your Somerset West POS so cash-up variances are never mixed with card batch cut-off times.
@printboss_dbn and @precious_govind we implemented this exact setup in Somerset West last quarter and it cut our monthly admin and reconciliation time in half.
Brilliant tip on the Merchant Clearing Account @printboss_dbn and @umhlangadev. Setting that up in Xero today.
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We are fitting out a 90m² prep kitchen and coffee roastery in Montague Gardens. Lease starts next month and we have stainless steel tables, grease traps, and handwash basins going in. How long does City of Cape Town Environmental Health take to inspect and issue the R638 COA once we apply?
@chefmpho_za In Montague Gardens / Milnerton, the Environmental Health Practitioner (EHP) usually schedules the site inspection within 10 to 15 working days of your complete application, provided your zoning certificate allows food preparation. The two things that delay first-time pass in Cape Town are: (1) no dedicated hands-free handwash basin with hot and cold running water right in the prep zone (separate from the dishwashing sink), and (2) missing pest-control bait station service records and food-handler medical/training certificates.
@dawid_joubert, To add to @spiceroutecatering: if you're roasting coffee on-site in Montague Gardens, check with the City's Air Quality officer whether your roaster's drum capacity requires an afterburner or stack emission clearance. Under 5kg batch roasters usually fly through, but 15kg+ drums get scrutinized.
@dawid_joubert, Thanks @spiceroutecatering and @drakensbergroaster! It's a 12kg roaster with a vortex chaff collector, and we made sure the plumber put a knee-operated handwash basin next to prep.
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Our quantity surveyor counter in Somerset West takes Yoco, Nedbank speedpoint and PayShap payments daily. Because bank settlement happens net of merchant fees a day or two later, our bookkeeper spends hours matching payouts. How do you automate this?
Backing up @cobus_potgieter and @gerhard_meyer: keep PayShap and Instant EFT on a separate payment tender button on your Somerset West POS so cash-up variances are never mixed with card batch cut-off times.
@cobus_potgieter and @bookedbybuhle we implemented this exact setup in Somerset West last quarter and it cut our monthly admin and reconciliation time in half.
Brilliant tip on the Merchant Clearing Account @cobus_potgieter and @gerhard_meyer. Setting that up in Xero today.
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Our digital marketing business in Stellenbosch has grown to 16 staff and only looking at our bank balance and bi-monthly VAT return is no longer cutting it. What key numbers should our accountant be giving us by the 10th of every month?
Building on @ashwin_singh_dbn and @riaz_tax_sa, ask your accountant to show a separate tax reserve line on the balance sheet summary so you always see true free cash after SARS VAT and provisional tax obligations.
@ashwin_singh_dbn and @sumaya_keraan we implemented this exact setup in Stellenbosch last quarter and it cut our monthly admin and reconciliation time in half.
Shot @ashwin_singh_dbn and @riaz_tax_sa. Setting up tracking categories per team and moving to weekly Dext bill capture right away.
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I run a courier, freight (Pty) Ltd from a dedicated office in Cape Town. Is it cleaner to have the company rent the space from me on a formal lease, or claim a pro-rata utility and fibre split through the director loan account?
What @michelle_wessels and @caitlin_rossouw said is spot on. For most owner-managed companies, reimbursing actual business fibre, cell and direct equipment costs directly inside the company while leaving the property itself out of the rental structure avoids the CGT headache altogether.
@michelle_wessels and @ari_goldman_sa we implemented this exact setup in Cape Town last quarter and it cut our monthly admin and reconciliation time in half.
Thanks @michelle_wessels and @caitlin_rossouw, I had not considered the CGT primary residence impact on sale. Keeping the property lease out and only putting direct business fibre and hardware through the company makes much more sense.
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Our Germiston workshop runs two 3-phase fibre lasers, an air compressor, and office computers. We don't need to run the heavy compressor off battery, just the office, IT, lighting, and one smaller 11kW machine during 4-hour municipal power outages in Ekurhuleni. Should we split the DB board into essential and non-essential 3-phase loads?
@tygerbergtax 100% split the distribution board first before you buy a single inverter. Industrial compressors and direct-on-line motors have massive inrush currents (up to 6x rated kW) that will trip a hybrid inverter instantly unless they have VSDs (Variable Speed Drives). Put your office, server rack, lighting and control electronics on the essential backup bus, and if the 11kW machine must run on backup, fit a soft-starter/VSD and look at parallel 3-phase Deye 12kW or Victron Quattro units with at least 30kWh of LiFePO4 rack batteries.
@braaimaster_gp, Agreed with @solarguy_pta. Also run a 7-day data logger on your incoming Ekurhuleni 3-phase supply before quoting. Half the workshops we audit in Germiston have terrible phase imbalance that needs redistributing before a 3-phase hybrid inverter goes in, and your insurer will insist on a supplementary SANS 10142-1 CoC signed off by a registered installation electrician.
@westrandwelder, Good call on the 7-day phase logger @threephasetheo and splitting the compressor off the essential bus @solarguy_pta. Our compressor definitely doesn't have a VSD yet.
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Our labour law business in Stellenbosch has grown to 16 staff and only looking at our bank balance and bi-monthly VAT return is no longer cutting it. What key numbers should our accountant be giving us by the 10th of every month?
Building on @schalk_bl and @hannes_joubert, ask your accountant to show a separate tax reserve line on the balance sheet summary so you always see true free cash after SARS VAT and provisional tax obligations.
@schalk_bl and @naledi_m_pta we implemented this exact setup in Stellenbosch last quarter and it cut our monthly admin and reconciliation time in half.
Shot @schalk_bl and @hannes_joubert. Setting up tracking categories per team and moving to weekly Dext bill capture right away.
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I run a quantity surveyor (Pty) Ltd from a dedicated office in Cape Town. Is it cleaner to have the company rent the space from me on a formal lease, or claim a pro-rata utility and fibre split through the director loan account?
What @yusuf_cassim and @pravin_chetty said is spot on. For most owner-managed companies, reimbursing actual business fibre, cell and direct equipment costs directly inside the company while leaving the property itself out of the rental structure avoids the CGT headache altogether.
@yusuf_cassim and @bianca_fredericks we implemented this exact setup in Cape Town last quarter and it cut our monthly admin and reconciliation time in half.
Thanks @yusuf_cassim and @pravin_chetty, I had not considered the CGT primary residence impact on sale. Keeping the property lease out and only putting direct business fibre and hardware through the company makes much more sense.
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A digital marketing client in Germiston doing R45m turnover wants to bring in an equity partner within 24 months so the founder can step back. What needs to be cleaned up first?
Great points from @simone_levitt and @tracey_halse. Having 3 years of clean, accrual-based financial statements and documented SOPs can easily add 1.0x to 1.5x to the EBITDA multiple for a Germiston mid-market business.
@simone_levitt and @costa_dimitriou we implemented this exact setup in Germiston last quarter and it cut our monthly admin and reconciliation time in half.
Super helpful checklist @simone_levitt and @tracey_halse. Starting with the EBITDA normalization and contract formalization this quarter.
MitchellsSpark · 09 Sept 2026
Solid advice from @eppingpack_cpt and @peninsulaplumb. Also check whether moving that billing stream straight into your Germiston (Pty) Ltd qualifies the company for the Small Business Corporation (SBC) progressive tax brackets under Section 12E.
Priya Naidoo · 09 Sept 2026
@eppingpack_cpt and @bolandbookkeeper we implemented this exact setup in Germiston last quarter and it cut our monthly admin and reconciliation time in half.
BolandBookkeeper · 09 Sept 2026
Appreciate the clarity @eppingpack_cpt and @peninsulaplumb. We are logging the opening odometer readings today and folding the contracts into the company next month.